• Aucun résultat trouvé

Replicability is not reproducibility: nor is it good science


Academic year: 2021

Partager "Replicability is not reproducibility: nor is it good science"

En savoir plus ( Page)

Texte intégral


Publisher’s version / Version de l'éditeur:

Proceedings of the Evaluation Methods for Machine Learning Workshop at the

26th ICML, Montreal, Canada,2009, 2009

READ THESE TERMS AND CONDITIONS CAREFULLY BEFORE USING THIS WEBSITE. https://nrc-publications.canada.ca/eng/copyright

Vous avez des questions? Nous pouvons vous aider. Pour communiquer directement avec un auteur, consultez la première page de la revue dans laquelle son article a été publié afin de trouver ses coordonnées. Si vous n’arrivez pas à les repérer, communiquez avec nous à PublicationsArchive-ArchivesPublications@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca.

Questions? Contact the NRC Publications Archive team at

PublicationsArchive-ArchivesPublications@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca. If you wish to email the authors directly, please see the first page of the publication for their contact information.

NRC Publications Archive

Archives des publications du CNRC

This publication could be one of several versions: author’s original, accepted manuscript or the publisher’s version. / La version de cette publication peut être l’une des suivantes : la version prépublication de l’auteur, la version acceptée du manuscrit ou la version de l’éditeur.

Access and use of this website and the material on it are subject to the Terms and Conditions set forth at

Replicability is not reproducibility: nor is it good science

Drummond, Chris


L’accès à ce site Web et l’utilisation de son contenu sont assujettis aux conditions présentées dans le site LISEZ CES CONDITIONS ATTENTIVEMENT AVANT D’UTILISER CE SITE WEB.

NRC Publications Record / Notice d'Archives des publications de CNRC:

https://nrc-publications.canada.ca/eng/view/object/?id=54187bb4-a8e2-4ce9-9067-9938dc403bea https://publications-cnrc.canada.ca/fra/voir/objet/?id=54187bb4-a8e2-4ce9-9067-9938dc403bea


Nor is it Good Science

Chris Drummond Chris.Drummond@nrc-cnrc.gc.ca

Institute for Information Technology National Research Council Canada Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, K1A 0R6


At various machine learning conferences, at various times, there have been discussions arising from the inability to replicate the experimental results published in a paper. There seems to be a wide spread view that we need to do something to address this prob-lem, as it is essential to the advancement of our field. The most compelling argument would seem to be that reproducibility of ex-perimental results is the hallmark of science. Therefore, given that most of us regard ma-chine learning as a scientific discipline, being able to replicate experiments is paramount. I want to challenge this view by separating the notion of reproducibility, a generally de-sirable property, from replicability, its poor cousin. I claim there are important differ-ences between the two. Reproducibility re-quires changes; replicability avoids them. Al-though reproducibility is desirable, I contend that the impoverished version, replicability, is one not worth having.

1. Introduction

At various machine learning conferences, at various times, there have been discussions arising from the in-ability to replicate the experimental results published in a paper. I am sure that many, if not most, ma-chine learning researchers have, at one time or an-other, encountered this problem. Perhaps more than a few have failed to reproduce their own results. A few years ago, Keogh (2005) gave an invited talk at the European Conference for Machine Learning highlight-ing this problem in papers on data minhighlight-ing applied to

Appearing in Proc. of the Evaluation Methods for Machine

Learning Workshop at the 26th ICML, Montreal, Canada,

2009. Copyright: National Research Council of Canada.

time series. The central role that experimental results play in our community, the strong reliance we place on them, makes this a worrying situation.

There seems to be a wide spread view that we need to do something to address this problem, as it is essential to the advancement of our field. The informal discus-sions have now hardened into something much more concrete, as evidenced by a couple of workshops held recently at NIPS (Sonnenburg et al., 2006; Sonnenburg et al., 2008). The latter of these workshops contained a long discussion on how this problem might be best addressed. The consensus seemed to be that all the artifacts necessary in generating the results should be submitted with the paper. Much of the discussion was on how researchers in the field might be encouraged to do this. The benefits of such an approach seemed largely accepted. It is hard to judge how wide spread this view is within the community but there seems lit-tle or no opposition to it.

The most compelling argument would seem to be that reproducibility of experimental results is the hallmark of science. Therefore, given that most of us regard machine learning as a scientific discipline, being able to replicate experiments is paramount. A number of different authors have pointed out this problem and proposed ways to deal with it. A paper published in JMLR (Sonnenburg et al., 2007), one of our two main machine learning journals argued that open source was critical to support reproducibility. They propose col-lecting experimental artifacts as a way of addressing the problem, a view shared by many others in closely related fields (Ruschhaupt et al., 2004; Blockeel & Vanschoren, 2007; Pedersen, 2008).

I want to challenge this view. I have called what is being proposed by others “replicability” and I will try to justify why this label is appropriate. I aim to sepa-rate the notion of reproducibility, a generally desirable property, from replicability, its poor cousin. I claim


Replicability is not Reproducability

there are important differences between the two. I will address the meaning of the word “reproducibil-ity” in science by discussing a historical example. I will then argue as to why “sharing the full code” would not achieve this. The crux of the matter is that repro-ducibility requires changes; replicability avoids them. A critical point of reproducing an experimental result is that irrelevant things are intentionally not repli-cated. One might say, one should replicate the result not the experiment.

Although reproducibility is desirable, I contend that the impoverished version, replicability, is one not worth having. It would cause a great deal of wasted ef-fort by members of our community. The sharing of all the artifacts from people’s experiments is not a trivial activity. It will require a great deal of extra work not only by the authors of a paper but also by reviewers. I am also far from convinced that it will deliver the benefits that many think it will. I suspect that, at best, it would serve as little more than a policing tool, preventing outright fraud. I do not believe fraud is a sufficiently widespread problem to warrant this effort. I want to make it clear, I accept that there may be other virtues for having repositories of software from various sources. My claim here, though, is that scien-tific reproducibility is not one of them.

In the following sections, I will flesh out the overall argument and try to answer obvious objections.

2. Replicability vs. Reproducibility

The crux of my argument is that replicability is not re-producibility. Reproducibility requires changes; repli-cability avoids them. I use the word “replirepli-cability” to describe the view that I think is prevalent in the machine learning community. In opposition to this, I want to establish that the meaning of the word “repro-ducibility”, as used in science, is much broader than that. Although, I admit, I am making a semantic dif-ferentiation, I want to avoid an unproductive debate based on the dictionary definitions of the words. Think of “replicability” simply as a label I have attached to this view. I believe the meaning of the word “repro-ducibility” in science is best ascertained through its use from a historical perspective.

2.1. Replicability

In this section, I will clarify why I have used the term replicability for what others have called repro-ducibility in our literature. The paper from JMLR, discussed in the introduction, states “ Reproducibil-ity of experimental results is a cornerstone of

sci-ence.. . . experiments are quite hard to reproduce exactly . . . Reproducibility would be quite easy to achieve in machine learning simply by sharing the full code used for experiments.” (Sonnenburg et al., 2007, page 2449). I want to focus on the phrase “reproduce exactly”, which appears in the above quote. It seems clear that authors believe that there should be no dif-ferences between one experiment and its reproduction. Certainly this would seem to be the main point of hav-ing access to the full code.

I have cited this paper a number of times through-out this work, using it as the archetype of the view I wish to counter. It is not my intent to specifically target it or its authors. I chose it because it had a number of desirable qualities. Firstly, there are many authors on this paper, sixteen in all and some are quite well known. It should therefore, hopefully, represent a view held by a significant part of the machine learn-ing community. Secondly, the paper makes the point of view about reproducibility explicit, others are less direct. I suspect that many in the community hold similar views but without investigating the issue so thoroughly.

Other authors, such as Blockeel and Vanschoren (2007), also would seem to contend that reproducibil-ity must be exact. They argue “[In papers] it should be clear how the experiments can be reproduced. This involves providing a complete description of both the experimental setup . . . and the experimental pro-cedure . . . an online log seems the most viable op-tion.”. Requiring a complete description or an on-line log would again suggest replication is the aim. From these two quotes, I think it reasonable to call this generally held viewpoint “replicability”. As a corollary, it also seems reasonable to claim that this version of “reproducibility” means to exactly replicate the original experiment and that nothing else will do.

2.2. Reproducibility

In this section, I aim to clarify what reproducibility means in science by exploring how it has been used as part of scientific practice for some time. One interest-ing issue in the history of science is the long disagree-ment about whether or not the speed of light is finite. I take the story from Mackay and Oldford (2000), who detail the conflicting views held throughout the ages. Many considered the speed of light infinite. We now know, of course, that speed of light is finite but suffi-ciently fast that measuring it on earth requires quite sophisticated equipment. Certainly, any simple exper-iments would do nothing to show that it was not infi-nite. So, it is not hard to see how in antiquity it would


have been experimentally next to impossible to prove it to be finite.

The issue, however, was seemingly resolved by Romer in 1671 by using extraterrestrial information. He ob-served the time that the moon Io was eclipsed by the planet Jupiter depended on where the Earth was in its orbit around the sun. The time became shorter as the Earth moved towards Jupiter and longer as it moved away. He proposed that the difference was due to the finite speed of light having to travel the different distances between Io and the Earth. Surprisingly, this observation was not considered the conclusive evidence we might have thought. Other explanations, based on Jupiter’s orbit and its interaction with its moons, were considered more plausible at that time by many. It wasn’t until more than fifty years later that addi-tional evidence came in that convinced the vast major-ity of scientists. In 1729, Bradley had been studying parallax in stars, their apparent change in position as the earth moves, and discovered changes that could not be accounted for by this effect. It could, how-ever, be accounted for by a finite light speed. In 1809, Delambre using the eclipses of all Jupiter’s moons es-tablished a figure for the speed of light very close to the one accepted today.

I think it reasonable to claim that Bradley and later Delambre “reproduced” Romer results. The lesson, I believe, that can be drawn from such an example is that Bradley obtained the result from quite a different experiment. In fact, apart from the result there seem few similarities. The original experiment certainly wasn’t replicated. In fact, the claim that the speed of light was finite would not have been accepted by the community, in general, unless the experiment was very different. There were alternative ways to explain the results. Even Delambre, focusing like Bradley on Jupiter, used all the moons instead of just one. So, again there were substantial differences between this experiment and its predecessors.

2.3. Discussion

In counter to my claim, one might argue that the previ-ous section introduces only a single example and one that is far from the norm. One might contend that it is much more common for many of the details of the original experiment to be replicated. It seems to me, however, that in more traditional sciences even in the most extreme case, the experiment will be done by a different person, in a different lab, using different equipment. Undoubtedly, it will still be considered the “same” experiment but I have put the word “same” in scare quotes because there will always be differences

between experiments. Removing these differences is what replicability would mean and some are advocat-ing in the machine learnadvocat-ing community. I would argue that these differences matter.

I think it reasonable to look to traditional sciences to give us the meaning of reproducibility. It is then worth asking what facets of reproducibility in these sciences are products of physical limitations in how they are carried out and what are essential parts of the pro-cess. Sonnenburg et al. (2007), as part of the quote cited earlier (replaced by ellipsis), stress the impor-tance of reproducibility in the accepimpor-tance of scientific work. They state “In many areas of science it is only when an experiment has been corroborated indepen-dently by another group of researchers that it is gen-erally accepted by the scientific community. ” I would say this would not happen, if the experiment was sim-ply replicated. In fact, I would claim that the greater the difference from the first experiment, the greater the power of the second. I think that part the reason why this quote is mistaken is in the idea that the com-munity accepts an experiment. I would say it is not the experiment, or even the result that is important. What is accepted is the idea that the experimental result empirically justifies.

For the sake of my argument, the reader does not need to believe the single instance of the previous section is the norm. The reader need only accept that it is one example of reproducibility and that the range is wide. If the reader accepts this argument, then replication is clearly at one end of the range. It is the weakest of all possible reproductions of an experimental result, the one with the least power.

The reader might feel that even the weakest version of reproducibility has value. Let us speculate as to why in other, more traditional, sciences like physics or chemistry, an experiment would be repeated using the same equipment in the same setting. I would sug-gest that the most obvious answer would be to check for fraud. We want to answer the question “did the experimenter actually carry out the experiment as re-ported?” I cannot but help feel that such an action is unnecessary in our community. Surely, fraud is not sufficiently widespread to make it necessary. I would also feel such actions were undesirable as it would only serve to promote distrust between researchers. It is true, that different authors have raised questions about the replicability of results. Sonnenburg et al. (2007) point to a debate between authors Tsang et al. (2005); Loosli and Canu (2007); Tsang and Kwok (2007) to support their position. I cannot help but feel that this problem was suceessfully dealt with by


hav-Replicability is not Reproducability

ing the discussion take place in a public forum. I am unclear as to what additional benefits would have come from having precise records of the original experiment. In fact, I would contend that this case is illustrative of another, more pressing, problem in our field. Having a place to discuss issues is sorely needed. I feel that JMLR might better serve the community not by being a repository of experimental output but rather having a letters section which allows such discussions to take place. It is interesting that the authors’ reply (Tsang & Kwok, 2007) was submitted but has not yet been published by JMLR. I wonder if that is because it was not felt to be of sufficient novelty and significance to be published. A letter, if reviewed at all, would need meet quite a different standard.

Part of the reason for people’s concern with exper-imental results that are not replicable is that, as a community, we place great trust in these results. I have argued elsewhere (Drummond, 2006; Drummond, 2008) that this is a mistake. There are many reasons why experimental results do not tell us what we want to know. If I am right, the benefits of recording exper-iments are considerably lessened. If others took this view, I expect that much of the concern, giving rise to these discussions, would disappear. In fact, it is hard to see how exact recordings of experimental processes might be used as part of a reviewing process. Surely we wouldn’t expect reviewers to very carefully study the scripts etc needed to produce the results. Yet, sim-ply checking that they can reproduce the tables and graphs of the paper would seem to do little to validate the work.

3. Conclusion

In this paper, I have claimed that what many in the field are advocating is the replicability of published experiments. They argue that this meets the repro-ducibility requirement inherent to science. My claim is that replicability is a poor substitute for scientific reproducibility. There may be other good reasons for the collecting of software and scripts that are the ba-sis of the experimental results published in papers but scientific reproducibility is not one.


Blockeel, H., & Vanschoren, J. (2007). Experi-ment databases: Towards an improved experimen-tal methodology in machine learning. Proceedings of the Eleventh European Conference on Principles and Practice of Knowledge Discovery in Databases (pp. 6–17).

Drummond, C. (2006). Machine learning as an ex-perimental science (revisited). Proceedings of the Twenty-First National Conference on Artificial In-telligence: Workshop on Evaluation Methods for Machine Learning (pp. 1–5). AAAI Press.

Drummond, C. (2008). Finding a balance between an-archy and orthodoxy. Proceedings of the Twenty-Fifth International Conference on Machine Learn-ing: Workshop on Evaluation Methods for Machine Learning III (4 pages).

Keogh, E. (2005). Recent advances in mining time series data: Why most of them are not really ”ad-vances”... Invited Talk at the European Conference on Machine Learning.

Loosli, G., & Canu, S. (2007). Comments on the ”core vector machines: Fast svm training on very large data sets”. JMLR, 8, 291–301.

Mackay, R., & Oldford, R. (2000). Scientific method, statistical method, and the speed of lightWorking pa-per 2000-02). Department of Statistics and Actuar-ial Science, University of Waterloo.

Pedersen, T. (2008). Empiricism is not a matter of faith. Computational Linguistics, 34, 465–470. Ruschhaupt, M., Huber, W., Poustka, A., &

Mans-mann, U. (2004). A compendium to ensure com-putational reproducibility in high-dimensional clas-sification tasks. Statistical Applications in Genetics and Molecular Biology, 3.

Sonnenburg, S., Braun, M., & Ong, C. S. (Eds.). (2006). NIPS ´06 Workshop: Machine learning open source software.

Sonnenburg, S., Braun, M., & Ong, C. S. (Eds.). (2008). NIPS ´08 Workshop: Machine learning open source software.

Sonnenburg, S., Braun, M. L., Ong, C. S., Bengio, S., Bottou, L., Holmes, G., LeCun, Y., M¨uller, K.-R., Pereira, F., Rasmussen, C. E., R¨atsch, G., Sch¨olkopf, B., Smola, A., Vincent, P., Weston, J., & Williamson, R. (2007). The need for open source software in machine learning. JMLR, 2443–2466. Tsang, I. W., & Kwok, J. T. (2007). Authors reply to

the ”comments on the core vector machines: Fast svm training on very large data sets”. http://www. cse.ust.hk/~jamesk/kernels.html.

Tsang, I. W., Kwok, J. T., & Cheung, P.-M. (2005). Core vector machines: Fast svm training on very large data sets. JMLR, 6, 363–392.

View publication stats View publication stats


Documents relatifs

Starting from the current knowledge based on intestinal metagenomics, we point out on the role of food in shaping gut microbiota composition and functions, which is therefore

Although we have not explored all the cases (the transmission and coupling of a P and general S wave across a lam- ination with non-normal incidence), we are confident that for

Total, swimming, cycling and running performances of the top ten triathletes for the different age groups at the Deca Iron triathlon during the 1992 to 2010 period are shown in

But game models don‟t proceed in this way, and we know why: players are supposed to choose simultaneously one, and only one, strategy (of the conditional type when

Beebe’s final proposal is that the type relevant for evaluating a belief produced by a given token process t, among the types of t satisfying the tri-level condition, is

Introduction Corporate Governance __ Supervisory Board Business Model Strategy Management Report Segment Reports Financial Statements Useful Information.. In the year under review,

F rom the beginning of medical school, I had heard many travel horror stories: the resident who had to deliver a baby at 10 000 feet; the physician who had to manage a

Health care professionals and patients can access informa- tion and support from the CCS three ways: by calling the Cancer Information Service (CIS) at 1-888-939-3333, by visit- ing

Inclusion criteria selected children younger than 5 years who were “recognized as problematic by their parents or carers, either a settling problem (refusing or taking a long time

L’archive ouverte pluridisciplinaire HAL, est destinée au dépôt et à la diffusion de documents scientifiques de niveau recherche, publiés ou non, émanant des

Enterprise Saskatchewan was introduced by the Sask Party to replace Regional Economic Development Authorities (REDAs). Enterprise Saskatchewan imposed new centrally

The main goal of this paper is the application of PSO (Particle Swarm Optimization) and Genetic Algorithm (GA) in Renewable energy in general and

In parallel to the findings described above, C57BL/6 or BALB/c mice (both Mls-1 ^ treated with H-2-incompatible Mls-1 a spleen cells from (C57BL/6 x DBA/2)F, mice showed practically

Continuing, developing and improving our learning visit programme is an important contribution by TNMoC to securing the future for ‘the past’ through the

Given the difficulty to determine the fundamental value of artworks, we apply a right-tailed unit root test with forward recursive regressions (SADF test) to

operations improvements driven by employees at all levels of the organization. These world- class manufacturing organizations have achieved and sustained leadership positions

Poser que le cadre théorique adapté à la compréhension de la relation que les ci- toyens européens entretiennent avec le processus d’intégration suppose de faire la différence

The paper is inspired by work on logic-based formaliza- tion of legal reasoning, (Prakken and Sartor 1996), (Prakken and Sartor 1997), (Prakken and Sartor 1998), (Prakken and

This case involves a number of return-related problems that can be found elsewhere and put in a comparative perspective; it might also shed some light on the specific

L’archive ouverte pluridisciplinaire HAL, est destinée au dépôt et à la diffusion de documents scientifiques de niveau recherche, publiés ou non, émanant des

Another example of such a statistic is provided with the Denert statistic, “den”, introduced recently (see [Den]) in the study of hereditary orders in central simple algebras1.

The purpose of this study is to investigate and analyze Azeri translation of English extraposition constructions involving copular verbs and followed by that–clause and

In the first article (Upper urinary tract urothelial cell carcinoma: location as a predictive factor for concomitant bladder carcinoma. Epub 2012 May 3) on the timing of Upper Urinary